Aktiv Demokrati forum

Re: Starting Active Democracy party in Finland

2011-02-28T01:17:13+01:00

The result from the vote: Yes
http://aktivdemokrati.se/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1387&p=11958#p11958

Translated from Swedish:
Aktiv Demokrati is giving Mikko Laajola from Finland the right until further notice to use the party name, logo and material with the intent to start a sister party in Finland.

Statistik: Postat av jonas — 2011-02-28 01.17

Re: Starting Active Democracy party in Finland

2011-02-21T12:57:07+01:00

Mikko Laajola skrev:
I also would like to know, how I was attached to the muutos2011-party, because I have absolutely no ties to the organisation. I personally am politically quite the opposite. It would be very important information for me, because I have no idea where this kind of information could be gathered.

Oh sorry. I was contacted by Mikael Korkman from Muutos 2011. I got you mixed up since you are both from Finland. I'm sorry for the mixup.

Either way, I would like to attatch the cooperation to a base like the EDD manifesto.

Mikko Laajola skrev:
So, the main concept still stays the same:
- I want to start Active Democacy party in Finland following the EDD manifesto
- I want to start building a network of Active democracyparties, that can collaborate on the subject

I support that.

Statistik: Postat av jonas — 2011-02-21 12.57

Re: Starting Active Democracy party in Finland

2011-02-21T12:45:52+01:00

I also would like to know, how I was attached to the muutos2011-party, because I have absolutely no ties to the organisation. I personally am politically quite the opposite. It would be very important information for me, because I have no idea where this kind of information could be gathered.

So, the main concept still stays the same:
- I want to start Active Democacy party in Finland following the EDD manifesto
- I want to start building a network of Active democracyparties, that can collaborate on the subject

Statistik: Postat av Gäst — 2011-02-21 12.45

Re: Starting Active Democracy party in Finland

2011-02-21T12:27:14+01:00

Hello,

I have nothing to do with the Muutos2011 party, as someone suggested. They are working on a "swiss model" direct democracy, and they also have other agendas.

My initiative has always been politically neutral, I want to create and support initiatives that increase participatory democratic processes for the people. The party I am working on will follow the EDD manifesto, and it will be quite similar to the organisation you have. Hence the same name- I want this to be a movement from passive hierarchical representative towards active, participatory democracy.

Statistik: Postat av Gäst — 2011-02-21 12.27

Re: Starting Active Democracy party in Finland

2011-02-21T00:40:31+01:00

gilroitto skrev:
Or just send the information about the new debate to him directly.

Or both. I notified Mikko about this thread now.

Statistik: Postat av jonas — 2011-02-21 00.40

Re: Starting Active Democracy party in Finland

2011-02-21T00:33:27+01:00

Or just send the information about the new debate to him directly.

Statistik: Postat av gilroitto — 2011-02-21 00.33

Re: Starting Active Democracy party in Finland

2011-02-21T00:05:10+01:00

New proposal:
Aktiv Demokrati stödjer att partier bildas i andra länder med liknande namn, logotyp, koncept, osv, under förutsättning att partiet skriver på och följer EDD manifesto, http://www.participedia.net/wiki/Electronic_Direct_Democracy_(EDD)

Can we vote on this, in order to get an answer to Mikko Laajola?

Statistik: Postat av jonas — 2011-02-21 00.05

Re: Starting Active Democracy party in Finland

2011-02-20T19:07:25+01:00

I also dont support non-politic organizations using ADs name.
Im sorry, but the rules in Participedia seems very straight forward, and should be possible to follow.
Can Mikko change in order to achieve this, I would be delighted to change my vote!
Its very encouraging that we soon might have sisterparties in other countries.

Statistik: Postat av Magnus Gustavsson — 2011-02-20 19.07

Re: Starting Active Democracy party in Finland

2011-02-20T18:56:42+01:00

I would like to propse that we start a new vote that includes that the Finlad party must subscribe to and follow the EDD manifesto.

The new proposition would be:

Partiet ger härmed Mikko Laajola från Finland rätt att använda partiets namn, logotyp och material i syfte att starta ett systerparti i Finland, under förutsättning att partiet till fullo följer EDD manifesto i nuvarande och framtida versioner, så som beskrivet på
http://www.participedia.net/wiki/Electronic_Direct_Democracy_(EDD)

Statistik: Postat av jonas — 2011-02-20 18.56

Re: Starting Active Democracy party in Finland

2011-02-20T17:39:45+01:00

(Edit: The Mikko is not connected to Change 2011. Sorry for the mixup.)

The current party of Mikko is called "Change 2011" and is not poltitically neutral. I wouldn't like to see Aktiv Demokrati used in a party that doesn't follow the EDD manifesto:

http://www.participedia.net/wiki/Electronic_Direct_Democracy_%28EDD%29

The party website http://www.muutos2011.fi/ includes statements on a lot ot things besides direct democracy:

* Funds collected by means of taxes are to be used for the wellbeing of citizens. In case of excess, it can be used for the benefit of other countries and their citizens.

* Other important targets are medical care, day-care opportunities for children and homeless people.

* Immigration in general must be economically profitable for the country.

* Being too lenient, convictions handed out by courts on violent crimes against persons, their life and health do not correspond the legal opinion of majority of citizens.

I do not support using AD name and logo for a party that do not follow the EDD manifesto:
http://www.participedia.net/wiki/Electronic_Direct_Democracy_%28EDD%29

Statistik: Postat av jonas — 2011-02-20 17.39